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magazine claims the nsa targeted the vatican are not true. look at the statements, that's a carefully worded statement. the question is, did the nsa target some specific individual in the vatican like the pope which this magazine claimed or did some other agency was looking at this type of thing? it's a carefully worded statement. that does not say that the u.s. is not spying on the vatican. so i think this is part of the problem that the administration is having, getting in front, pro actively trying to quash the story, manage it, when you have leaks every day, something different. they need a better strategy to kind of get in front of this, i think, be more transparent because these leaks are coming. >> hard to protect the system of intelligence gathering when that's happening, the drip, drip. >> good to see you in person. >> come down more. >> come back. >> i will. >> imagine what they're saying on the phone with the pope? i'd like to be in on those calls. >> i don't know i'd want to know. >> edward snowden, former government contractor wh
magazine claims the nsa targeted the vatican are not true. look at the statements, that's a carefully worded statement. the question is, did the nsa target some specific individual in the vatican like the pope which this magazine claimed or did some other agency was looking at this type of thing? it's a carefully worded statement. that does not say that the u.s. is not spying on the vatican. so i think this is part of the problem that the administration is having, getting in front, pro actively...
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nsa has advantages. but one of the points that mike rogers made in this hearing, and clapper and alexander, in effect, everyone's hands are dirty. they say, yes, we are the target of foreign intelligence operations but also say that we go after not only our allies but -- the leaders of our allies. used the term leadership intentions are both a reasonable and acceptable and valuable target for american intelligence operations. and -- than falling under that umbrella may the phone calls of america i will and others. >> chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. thanks. congressman adam schiff of california sits on the house intelligence committee and stepped out of today's meeting to speak to us live from capitol hill. thanks for joining us. quickly, james clapper was also asked if our allies are guilty of the same sort of thing. here is what he said. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time, any type of espionage activity against the united states of america, intelligence se
nsa has advantages. but one of the points that mike rogers made in this hearing, and clapper and alexander, in effect, everyone's hands are dirty. they say, yes, we are the target of foreign intelligence operations but also say that we go after not only our allies but -- the leaders of our allies. used the term leadership intentions are both a reasonable and acceptable and valuable target for american intelligence operations. and -- than falling under that umbrella may the phone calls of...
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they're focusing on obama care, the nsa controversy. it's a tough position for president obama and his team, but i think there are parallels in both the nsa issue as well as the obama care website. they have to release more information. it continues to be a story if they don't release the enrollment numbers. i mean, clearly, if those numbers were good, they would be out. they keep saying mid-november. >> not until november, right? that's what we just heard from her this morning. we also heard, you know, that obama did not know about spying on allies. we heard obama did not know the health care website was such a mess. is i don't know really an acceptable defense? because at some point, you know, just speaking optically, don't you start to be perceived as out of touch? >> yeah, and previously obama hasn't taken this stance. he said on a number of occasions the buck stops with me, whether it's benghazi or other issues that he had in the first term. so i don't think that's a good long-term strategy. any time you're having that discussion o
they're focusing on obama care, the nsa controversy. it's a tough position for president obama and his team, but i think there are parallels in both the nsa issue as well as the obama care website. they have to release more information. it continues to be a story if they don't release the enrollment numbers. i mean, clearly, if those numbers were good, they would be out. they keep saying mid-november. >> not until november, right? that's what we just heard from her this morning. we also...
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regarding the nsa tapping the phones of nearly three dozen world leaders. add president obama himself to the list of those surprised to learn it was going on. a senior administration official tells me president obama did not learn until recently of the nsa surveillance of other world leaders including allies, confirming a report that first appeared in this morning's "wall street journal," citing u.s. officials that the white house did not know until an internal review over the summer after which it ended some of those programs. the senior administration official tells me the program that monitored the phone of german chancellor angela merkel did not end until quite recently. the white house today sidestepped any comment on that report while vaguely promising more accountability. >> we recognize that there need to be additional constraints on how we gather and use intelligence, but the president has directed us to review our surveillance capabilities. the entire review that is being led by the white house will be completed by the end of the year. >> the offi
regarding the nsa tapping the phones of nearly three dozen world leaders. add president obama himself to the list of those surprised to learn it was going on. a senior administration official tells me president obama did not learn until recently of the nsa surveillance of other world leaders including allies, confirming a report that first appeared in this morning's "wall street journal," citing u.s. officials that the white house did not know until an internal review over the summer...
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the nsa has a worldwide responsibility. the nsa provides information to the fbi which the fbi can then follow up on if they have some indication there may be a terrorist plot under way in the united states, they would give that information to the fbi. the fbi would thin pursue it and see if there's something really there or not there. but they work closely together. one of the big problems before 9/11 was there wasn't enough coordination between the left-hand of the u.s. government and the right hand of the u.s. government. after 9/11 they did implement much greater coordination. as a result the nsa, the cia, other law enforcement, whether military and, of course, the fbi, department of homeland security, they worked much more closely together and there's a director of national intelligence hogs now oversees all 16 different u.s. intelligence agencies. as a result, they're supposedly do things a lot more coordinated and a lot better way. >> would he have, thanks so much. and to remind the viewers we'll bring you the preside
the nsa has a worldwide responsibility. the nsa provides information to the fbi which the fbi can then follow up on if they have some indication there may be a terrorist plot under way in the united states, they would give that information to the fbi. the fbi would thin pursue it and see if there's something really there or not there. but they work closely together. one of the big problems before 9/11 was there wasn't enough coordination between the left-hand of the u.s. government and the...
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does changes in the nsa and the spying, will that change that or not? >>> rapper jay z say he is being unfairly criticized. two people were detained by police when they bought expensive things. hundreds have taken to twitter demanding jay z end his partnership with barneys. this puts jay z in a rather awkward position. he's about to launch a collection of clothing, jewelry. the money from the deal is going to a charity. it's not like he's keeping it for himself. the question is, will sticking with barneys hurt his brand as a rapper? the truth is probably not. he and his wife beyonce have had a stream of other income. jay z is worth $500 million. and when you add that to his wife, they have well over a billion dollars. which brings me to tonight's number. 3.6 million. according to the luxury institute. that is the average worth of a barney's shopper. they are incredibly wealthy. and even though he may not like probably not a boycott strong enough for him to change. >>> is the site of the winter games too dangerous? >>> and new details in the case of a bo
does changes in the nsa and the spying, will that change that or not? >>> rapper jay z say he is being unfairly criticized. two people were detained by police when they bought expensive things. hundreds have taken to twitter demanding jay z end his partnership with barneys. this puts jay z in a rather awkward position. he's about to launch a collection of clothing, jewelry. the money from the deal is going to a charity. it's not like he's keeping it for himself. the question is, will...
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spying allegations stemmed from leaks made by former nsa contractor edward snowden. he describes himself as a whistleblower, but others say he's a traitor. >> christiane amanpour has spoken with the journalist who worked closely with edward snowden to expose these secrets and joins you now from london. you had that interview with glenn greenwald. what struck you most about him, he is one determined man on a bit of a mission really. >> he continues to insist that despite the vociferous criticism that officials have leveled at the snowden leaks and at him and the press for publishing them, it is not all about terrorism. he keeps saying loorks, they want us to believe that everything that's being leaked is just about life and death terrorism. but it's not. there are a lot of other revelations, a lot of revelations about economic and commercial and industrial espionage. there are a lot of revelations obviously which started the firestorm of protests around the world. about spying and collecting metadata from ordinary citizens. that is what really drives glen green wald r
spying allegations stemmed from leaks made by former nsa contractor edward snowden. he describes himself as a whistleblower, but others say he's a traitor. >> christiane amanpour has spoken with the journalist who worked closely with edward snowden to expose these secrets and joins you now from london. you had that interview with glenn greenwald. what struck you most about him, he is one determined man on a bit of a mission really. >> he continues to insist that despite the...
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now he is ordering a full review of the nsa surveillance operations and the foreign relations fallout. here is more from our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. >> reporter: president obama would not confirm the nsa was spying on the phone calls of u.s. allies like germany's chancellor angela merkel. >> the national security operations generally have one purpose and that is to make sure that the american people are safe. i'm making a review to make sure what they are able to do doesn't necessarily mean what they should be doing. >> reporter: senior administration officials tell cnn president obama did not know about the nsa surveillance of merkel and other allies until earlier this year. when he found out he ordered a stop to some of the programs. the democratic chairman of the senate intelligence community dianne feinstein usually an ally of the white house says that is not good enough and wants a total review of all u.s. intelligence programs. here is one explanation former vice president cheney gave cnn's jake tapper. >> we are vulnerable as was shown on 9/11. you ne
now he is ordering a full review of the nsa surveillance operations and the foreign relations fallout. here is more from our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. >> reporter: president obama would not confirm the nsa was spying on the phone calls of u.s. allies like germany's chancellor angela merkel. >> the national security operations generally have one purpose and that is to make sure that the american people are safe. i'm making a review to make sure what they are...
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why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the way, we listen to her phone conversations on her cell phone, you should know this. >> i talked to people on both sides of this. some say if he didn't know, he should have known. he should just have assumed it. others say well, this is the way the nsa operates and you need to pierce that and you need to change the system, because just because as jay carney said today, just because they can gather all this information doesn't mean that they should gather all this information. that's why it's clear the president is having a review in the wake of the edward snowden disclosures but
why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the...
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she defended the nsa program. and then to learn two or three months later that she personally was tapped and then to learn that actually the american president knew about it already in summer, that's one of the moments which i would consider being face losing relevance. >> you know angela merkel well. you served as her defense minister. how angry do you think she is? >> she is, i think, really disappointed. and she is very analytical person but she shows lots of emotions when it comes to transatlantic friendship and partnership. and to have someone on the other side of the atlantic who is not willing to communicate at the moment when you need to talk to each other. such things can be resolved. someone who is not willing to send someone over to germany to explain what is happening or to paris or to other places but to wait up until the moment german delegation comes to washington are tiny diplomatic steps that would be helpful installed at the right place. >> pleasure to have you on. thank you so much. >> great to
she defended the nsa program. and then to learn two or three months later that she personally was tapped and then to learn that actually the american president knew about it already in summer, that's one of the moments which i would consider being face losing relevance. >> you know angela merkel well. you served as her defense minister. how angry do you think she is? >> she is, i think, really disappointed. and she is very analytical person but she shows lots of emotions when it...
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this is what was violated by nsa activities. washington was playing by the laws of the jungle but inside europe's post-modern system. partly this is because the distinction is not easy to maintain. what if you look for terrorists within europe. that is people who still play by the laws of the jungle or even worse. america as a global power is operating all over the world trying to tackle some of the nastiest threats out there. perhaps it doesn't have the luxury to retreat to a garden and renounce nasty tactics. if it did, it's not likely that china, russia, al qaeda would follow suit. precisely because washington has to get its hands dirty, it should be smart about this. you don't stop terrorists in europe by listening in on angela merkel's cell phone. the rewards of spying on friendly heads of government are probably outweighed by the risks. and most troubling, it's not clear that many of these specific activities were clearly thought through and directed by the white house. nor do they appear to have been vetted by congress. i
this is what was violated by nsa activities. washington was playing by the laws of the jungle but inside europe's post-modern system. partly this is because the distinction is not easy to maintain. what if you look for terrorists within europe. that is people who still play by the laws of the jungle or even worse. america as a global power is operating all over the world trying to tackle some of the nastiest threats out there. perhaps it doesn't have the luxury to retreat to a garden and...
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but they're saying that it pales in comparison to their complaints over the widespread nsa dragnet. the u.s. can't seem to get away from this controversy. john kerry was asked about it by reporters in poland when he made a stop there. he skirted the question of whether they were the actually the u.s. spying on polish leaders, but he repeated what the obama administration is saying, that is they're conducting a big review of this. again, reiterating what he said in the past, that a will the of this espionage, a lot of this dragnet, had overreach and in the meantime as we know, the u.s., the white house, the obama administration, is trying to figure out ways of reigning in some of the espionage. we're not sure how that's going to revolve around this nsa and how they're going to come together to do that, but there is obviously a huge political fallout that continues over this. >> i suppose the question is is, has it really harmed relations between countries and we can also talk about great britain's reported spy program and outposts in berlin, in germany. is that something that countri
but they're saying that it pales in comparison to their complaints over the widespread nsa dragnet. the u.s. can't seem to get away from this controversy. john kerry was asked about it by reporters in poland when he made a stop there. he skirted the question of whether they were the actually the u.s. spying on polish leaders, but he repeated what the obama administration is saying, that is they're conducting a big review of this. again, reiterating what he said in the past, that a will the of...
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allies saying they're furious at the alleged extent of nsa surveillance on their turf. today, the u.s. ambassador to spain was called in for a dressing down by the spanish foreign minister. a spanish newspaper publishing a shocking number, 60. 6-0 million phone calls of average citizens intercepted by the nsa in the past year alone. so joining me now, christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent and a professor at princeton university. christiane to you, first, because the big pushback coming from this unidentified source, the wall street journal, saying the president did not know the nsa was spying on foreign leaders, put a stop to it once he found out. let's take the president at his word. why didn't he know? >> look, i have absolutely zero idea about whether he knew whether he didn't, why he didn't, or what. what i do know is spying has been, you know, as old as diplomacy itself. it is part of accepted statecraft. it's not pleasant. they don't like it, but they all know it happens. i think the issue is the publics in europe were very upset. in germany
allies saying they're furious at the alleged extent of nsa surveillance on their turf. today, the u.s. ambassador to spain was called in for a dressing down by the spanish foreign minister. a spanish newspaper publishing a shocking number, 60. 6-0 million phone calls of average citizens intercepted by the nsa in the past year alone. so joining me now, christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent and a professor at princeton university. christiane to you, first, because the big...
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the nation's top nsa officials went before congress today. without copping to specifics, director of national intelligence said in so many words yeah of course we spy on our allies. they spy on us. it's been going on for decades. is it naive to expect less? is this what countries do to each other? >> i think on some level you should expect that, right? how you're supposed to take your allies' words they're always going to be allies? that's just natural. the big issue it's a p.r. disaster on top of the p.r. disaster. now an international p.r. disaster? it's coming precisely at the wrong time for the administration. but i think it's a normal thing. >> i don't think it's just a p.r. disaster, charles. i think it's this nsa system set up under bush and cheney which obama has refused to stare down. i think it's a juggernaut that's out of control. hoovering up so much information, untram meld powers and taken this kind of surveillance to a whole new comprehensive level that picks up all the stuff. >> the fundamental principle has not changed if you
the nation's top nsa officials went before congress today. without copping to specifics, director of national intelligence said in so many words yeah of course we spy on our allies. they spy on us. it's been going on for decades. is it naive to expect less? is this what countries do to each other? >> i think on some level you should expect that, right? how you're supposed to take your allies' words they're always going to be allies? that's just natural. the big issue it's a p.r. disaster...
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the nsa chief delivered a partial denial. >> this is not nsa breaking into any databases. it would be illegal for us to do that. >> reporter: as did a written statement from nsa to cnn saying "the assertion that we collect vast quantities of u.s. persons' data from this type of collection is not true" but the nsa did not deny it accesses links between the servers or communications of foreigners carried on those links. reaction from google and yahoo! was swift and angry. "we have long been concerned about the possibility of this snooping" said google "which is why we continue to extend encryption across more and more google services and links." yahoo! says "we have not given access to our data centers to the nsa or any other government agency." two european delegations upset at allegations of nsa surveillance in their countries met face-to-face with the white house and the in, sa chief who told them all nsa intel gathering in europe is done in collaboration with european intel agencies. so i asked them, does that make the europeans hypocritical for criticizing the u.s.? >>
the nsa chief delivered a partial denial. >> this is not nsa breaking into any databases. it would be illegal for us to do that. >> reporter: as did a written statement from nsa to cnn saying "the assertion that we collect vast quantities of u.s. persons' data from this type of collection is not true" but the nsa did not deny it accesses links between the servers or communications of foreigners carried on those links. reaction from google and yahoo! was swift and angry....
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the nsa spying scandal spiraling out of control. a new report out of germany claiming that president obama knew the u.s. was conducting surveillance on chancellor angela merkel in 2010 even though he assured her by phone last week, he did not know anything. this morning, u.s. officials are claiming the obama administration ended the nsa operation that spied on merkel this past summer, as soon as they found out about it. we get more from have been cnn's chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. >> reporter: the newest edward snowden documents report more spying on america's closest allies. in spain the nsa reports listening in on 60 million phone calls in a single month and in germany a newspaper reports that president obama was briefed by nsa chief keith alexander about spying on german chance large angela merkel's calls back in 2010 and contradicting white house assurances that the president was not aware of the extent of the surveillance. the nsa quickly denied the report saying the following. nor has he ever discussed al
the nsa spying scandal spiraling out of control. a new report out of germany claiming that president obama knew the u.s. was conducting surveillance on chancellor angela merkel in 2010 even though he assured her by phone last week, he did not know anything. this morning, u.s. officials are claiming the obama administration ended the nsa operation that spied on merkel this past summer, as soon as they found out about it. we get more from have been cnn's chief national security correspondent jim...
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but could even the vatican be vulnerable to nsa eavesdropping? a report in italy's panorama magazine saying the nsa intercepted calls into and out of the residence where cardinals stayed before the recent papal conclave where pope francis was chosen. on the heels made by dared snowden that the nsa listened in on angela merkel cell phone calls and may have had access from dozens of other world leaders some say it doesn't matter. u.s. intelligence officials all but knit they do spy on america's allies. >> some of this reminds me a lot of the classic movie "casablan a "casablanca." >> my god, gamblizing going on here. some sort of thing. >> reporter: they say one of the way the nsa can reestablish trust. >> if it came forward and was more open and more transparent about what it does and why it does these things, including spying on our friends and allies, i think people may say that makes sense. >> reporter: the vatican responded to the panorama report saying we are not concerned. others say if anyone is listening in on the vatican, there could be g
but could even the vatican be vulnerable to nsa eavesdropping? a report in italy's panorama magazine saying the nsa intercepted calls into and out of the residence where cardinals stayed before the recent papal conclave where pope francis was chosen. on the heels made by dared snowden that the nsa listened in on angela merkel cell phone calls and may have had access from dozens of other world leaders some say it doesn't matter. u.s. intelligence officials all but knit they do spy on america's...
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first and foremost, i've had eight-plus years at nsa. they are among the finest people in this country. what they do every day for this nation is unheralded. we don't get a lot of fanfare out of it, but it's absolutely superb. saturday i had the opportunity to work, again, which we have done every weekend since i've been there, to support our troops in afghanistan who are under threat of an attack. we do that all the time. our people were in there supporting our troops, supporting the military operations. and in eight-plus years, not one person has ever come up to me and said, i have to work tonight or the weekend. they always come in. they protect our troops, and they protect this country. they've taken an oath to defend the nation and to protect our civil liberties and privacy. and they do that better than anyone i have ever seen. it is a privilege and honor to work next to them every day. what i want to tell you about is how did we get here, talk about the business record fisa, and i want to give you insights to what we see going on w
first and foremost, i've had eight-plus years at nsa. they are among the finest people in this country. what they do every day for this nation is unheralded. we don't get a lot of fanfare out of it, but it's absolutely superb. saturday i had the opportunity to work, again, which we have done every weekend since i've been there, to support our troops in afghanistan who are under threat of an attack. we do that all the time. our people were in there supporting our troops, supporting the military...
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does it show how the nsa broke into google? >> yes. think of google as having multiple data centers around the world. and what apparently it did is the fiberoptic connections between those big super data centers, they tapped into. they put a clip on or had a way to monitor what was going through those fiberoptic cables. and that's something we've learned from snowden that they've been doing around the world. but it's particularly disturbing that it's done with google because google is unique. it's the only entity in the world that has a mission to collect all the world's information. that's public and private information. so it's a unique pressure trove. the nsa is only collecting information about people that they think are a threat to the united states and to others. google has a mission to collect all information. >> so the nsa flatly denies tapping into any private google or yahoo user information. >>> next, i'll explain what this is. [ male announcer ] at humana, understanding what makes you different is what makes us different. w
does it show how the nsa broke into google? >> yes. think of google as having multiple data centers around the world. and what apparently it did is the fiberoptic connections between those big super data centers, they tapped into. they put a clip on or had a way to monitor what was going through those fiberoptic cables. and that's something we've learned from snowden that they've been doing around the world. but it's particularly disturbing that it's done with google because google is...
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. >> let's talk about issues, the nsa, i want to play a clip. >> nsa includes the interception. >> including audios, documents, chat logs, and e-mails. >> everybody is at risk for getting caught up in the nsa dragnet. >> here is a question for you, oliver, i know you have been pretty strong about this. if you were the president of the united states, how far would you allow the nsa to do their work, how would you draw the line? >> he has been far more eloquent about the issue, it is a line we cannot cross and we crossed it. >> where is the line, where should we be? >> there is a moral integrity that we have to respect. everybody has a right. you can't sell this idea that we're protecting you against the terrorists as greenwald has. the terrorists are a small group of people. and we have bugged the whole world, put all -- the hay stack is all there, and anything goes. and into the future. and that is what concerns me the most, because even if obama is a reasonable man, what if we did have a terror incident of major proportions, or there was another president that comes in, call it to the right
. >> let's talk about issues, the nsa, i want to play a clip. >> nsa includes the interception. >> including audios, documents, chat logs, and e-mails. >> everybody is at risk for getting caught up in the nsa dragnet. >> here is a question for you, oliver, i know you have been pretty strong about this. if you were the president of the united states, how far would you allow the nsa to do their work, how would you draw the line? >> he has been far more eloquent...
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with the white house and the nsa chief who told them all nsa intel gathering in europe is done in collaboration with european intel agencies. i asked them does that make the europeans hypocritical for criticizing the u.s.? >> if we want to get to the truth of why there was massive -- we have allegations of mass surveillance. >> reporter: by europeans and americans or just americans? >> whoever it was, whatever partnerships there may have been, we want to get to the truth of it. >> that e.u. delegation and a german delegation both went to the white house to talk spying. they talked about how the dialogue can proceed and strengthen our cooperation. the white house putting the best spin on it. the europeans are looking for an agreement that sets clear rules and limits on what allies spy on and what they don't, kate and chris, what really gets them is the spying on leaders of allies. that's something the white house has said it's going to take a look at. >> when you're working in the business of secrets, hard to come to that kind of an agreement, i guess. great to see you. >> remind me, the preside
with the white house and the nsa chief who told them all nsa intel gathering in europe is done in collaboration with european intel agencies. i asked them does that make the europeans hypocritical for criticizing the u.s.? >> if we want to get to the truth of why there was massive -- we have allegations of mass surveillance. >> reporter: by europeans and americans or just americans? >> whoever it was, whatever partnerships there may have been, we want to get to the truth of...
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this is something the white house and nsa deny. "wall street journal" reports the president was only made aware of this last summer. conflicting at this point. neither answers is satisfying because either he didn't have enough oversight or he hasn't been entirely forthcoming. demands for more information. some of these things are so sensitive, he can't go into full detail. >> there's a review under way right now. we expect other potentially controversial details to emerge. >> no question. they a real worry now particularly for relationships sensitive intelligence sharing relationships with the u.s. we share intelligence with the germans, french and so on. these relationships in south asia, in the middle east, more difficult countries for which a revelation they're cooperating on a country like iran could be damaging for them and u.s. relationships with them. >> in germany, this is especially sensitive because of east germany and the way it was ruled during the communist era. this is such a sensitive issue for the chancellor angela
this is something the white house and nsa deny. "wall street journal" reports the president was only made aware of this last summer. conflicting at this point. neither answers is satisfying because either he didn't have enough oversight or he hasn't been entirely forthcoming. demands for more information. some of these things are so sensitive, he can't go into full detail. >> there's a review under way right now. we expect other potentially controversial details to emerge....
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maybe they sell hats but it could be their version of the nsa. you don't always say you are what you are. that brings me to the point. we don't know what the job. is his attorney said they're with holding it for security reasons. how valuable, tim, do you think snowden is at this point as an intelligence asset for the russians? >> he is of great value. just his knowledge of how he got hired. the process of his hiring. the type of work he did. the personnel he worked. with all of those things, there's a arraign why when you're in the intelligence communicate and you have a top secret clearance or a clearance above that, why pillow talk is banned. everyone you associate. with any foreign nationals you associate with all have to be reported. the agencies have to look at that and to see if there is a possible envelope being built around that you could sap information from you. so whether he intentionally gives it out or not is not the question. it is what he knows and what those around him want to know. >> does fact that he has a job. what does that
maybe they sell hats but it could be their version of the nsa. you don't always say you are what you are. that brings me to the point. we don't know what the job. is his attorney said they're with holding it for security reasons. how valuable, tim, do you think snowden is at this point as an intelligence asset for the russians? >> he is of great value. just his knowledge of how he got hired. the process of his hiring. the type of work he did. the personnel he worked. with all of those...
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president obama would not confirm the nsa was spying on the phone calls of u.s. allies like germany's chancellor angela merkel. in an interview, he both defended u.s. intelligence activities. >> the national security operations generally have one purpose and that is to make sure the american people are safe. >> reporter: and conceded that maybe they'd gone too far. >> i'm initiating, now, a review, to make sure what they're able to do doesn't necessarily mean what they should be doing. >> senior administration officials tell cnn president obama did not know about the nsa surveillance of merkel and other allies until earlier this year. when he found out, he ordered a stop to some of the programs. the democratic chairman of the senate intelligence committee dianne feinstein, usually an ally of the white house, says that's not good enough and want s a, quote, total review of all u.s. intelligence programs. in washington this week pressing for the limits. telling me eu citizens find u.s. spying disturbing. >> they feel very uneasy. they don't know why it's happening.
president obama would not confirm the nsa was spying on the phone calls of u.s. allies like germany's chancellor angela merkel. in an interview, he both defended u.s. intelligence activities. >> the national security operations generally have one purpose and that is to make sure the american people are safe. >> reporter: and conceded that maybe they'd gone too far. >> i'm initiating, now, a review, to make sure what they're able to do doesn't necessarily mean what they should...
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the nsa says it's simply not true. but this isn't helping shape the relationship. >> scott, thank you so much. yahoo, google say they are out raged that they may have been spied upon. what's their biggest fear? what's the worst that can happen if the government starts collecting daytime that from people with google accounts? >> i think, first of all, they're very upset because they know that they're supposed to be keeping their information private and secure. so if the government is breaking into americans acounts, they shouldn't be doing that. >> so tell us about -- tell us about this drawing that was leaked alodge with some other edward snowden documents. does it show how the nsa broke into google. >> >> yes, think of google as having multiple data centers around the world. what apparently, it did, the fiberoptic connections, they tabbed into. they put a clip on or had a way to monitor what was going through those fiberoptic cables. that's something we've learned from snowden that they've been doing around the world.
the nsa says it's simply not true. but this isn't helping shape the relationship. >> scott, thank you so much. yahoo, google say they are out raged that they may have been spied upon. what's their biggest fear? what's the worst that can happen if the government starts collecting daytime that from people with google accounts? >> i think, first of all, they're very upset because they know that they're supposed to be keeping their information private and secure. so if the government is...
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sort of ironic given all this nsa talk. we've got that story. >>> apple i iphone sales were better than expected. but today all the talk is about a buyout. is happening eyeing an american car company? and i didn't just misspeak. >>> and jay z has another problem. why they're demanding that he drop his latest megabucks deal. [ male announcer ] staying warm and dry has never been our priority. our priority is, was and always will be serving you, the american people. so we improved priority mail flat rate to give you a more reliable way to ship. now with tracking up to eleven scans, specified delivery dates, and free insurance up to $50 all for the same low rate. [ woman ] we are the united states postal service. [ man ] we are the united states postal service. [ male announcer ] and our priority is you. go to usps.com® and try it today. see who does good work and compare costs. it doesn't usually work that way with health care. but with unitedhealthcare, i get information on quality rated doctors, treatment options and estim
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are you -- >> it's hard to say because we don't really know what the nsa is doing. i'm for more transparency but you can't have complete transparency because they are a spy agency. you're keeping secrets. of course we're keeping secrets. >> so where is that line though? no one can quite work out, where is the line? >> we don't want a rogue agency. what i don't want to know and find out is that they are dog things and obama doesn't know about it. it's one thing if obama knows about it -- >> he claimed he didn't know the nsa had been bugging angela merkle for years. >> they are in an agency or oliver norths, we don't need that. >> what about edward snowden in terms of the amount he disclosed. people have a view of manning on wiki lakes. >> movies are too long. yes, i mean the -- i can't remember the guy's name. i think it's bradford who said, you know, when you keep making the haystack bigger, it's harder to find the needle. look how many people are on the terrorist watch list, over a million. how many people have security clearance, how much space we're building to h
are you -- >> it's hard to say because we don't really know what the nsa is doing. i'm for more transparency but you can't have complete transparency because they are a spy agency. you're keeping secrets. of course we're keeping secrets. >> so where is that line though? no one can quite work out, where is the line? >> we don't want a rogue agency. what i don't want to know and find out is that they are dog things and obama doesn't know about it. it's one thing if obama knows...
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is he explaining his position on the nsa and his spying policy directive to the nsa? did he do enough yesterday? >> probably not. in the sense that he would not even publicly concede that the german chancellor's phone, some of those conversations were monitored. the president has a tough one. this is top-secret classified intelligence programs, the specifics of it and the practice of it. the president will have to do a couple things. at administration will have to answer the tough questions from congress and in doing so, hopefully answer questions from the american people. i suspect secretary kerry and the president himself, diplomacy with these allied leaders. a lot of close friends are peeved and say this will affect relationships down the road. >> senator lindsey graham says he'll stahl all nominations until he gets more information on the attack in benghazi. it's been more than a year. what's lindsey graham trying to do here? >> is he trying to help his colleagues in the house. because the democrats control the senate. so there's not a serious benghazi investigati
is he explaining his position on the nsa and his spying policy directive to the nsa? did he do enough yesterday? >> probably not. in the sense that he would not even publicly concede that the german chancellor's phone, some of those conversations were monitored. the president has a tough one. this is top-secret classified intelligence programs, the specifics of it and the practice of it. the president will have to do a couple things. at administration will have to answer the tough...
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sort of ironic given all this nsa talk. we've got that story. >>> apple i iphone sales were better than expected. but today all the talk is about a buyout. is happening eyeing an american car company? and i didn't just misspeak. >>> and jay z has another problem. why they're demanding that he drop his latest megabucks deal. . (little girl) bye bye! made a best friend forever. the back seat of my subaru is where she grew up. what? (announcer) the two-thousand-fourteen subaru forester. (girl) what? (announcer) built to be there for your family. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. it's hard to see opportunity in today's challenging environment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth management has the vision and experience to look beyond the obvious. we'll uncover opportunities, find hidden risk, and make success a reality. bny mellon wealth management. i'to guard their manhood with trnew depend shields and guards. the discreet protection that's just for guys. now, it's your turn. get my training tips a
sort of ironic given all this nsa talk. we've got that story. >>> apple i iphone sales were better than expected. but today all the talk is about a buyout. is happening eyeing an american car company? and i didn't just misspeak. >>> and jay z has another problem. why they're demanding that he drop his latest megabucks deal. . (little girl) bye bye! made a best friend forever. the back seat of my subaru is where she grew up. what? (announcer) the two-thousand-fourteen subaru...
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and google and now the nsa is pushing back. plus dr. sanjay gupta was the last journalist to have an exclusive interview with kathleen sebelius. is her message about obama care better today than it was last week when he sat down with her? sanjay standing by to join us live. #%tia[ >>> new developments in the scandal over u.s. government spying. also new allegations the ns after the tapped in to yahoo! and google communications which are used by hundreds of millions of people.nd google communicati are used by hundreds of millions of people.the tapped in to yaho google communications which are used by hundreds of millions of people.apped in to yahoo! and g communications which are used by hundreds of millions of people. jim sciutto is working the story for us. the "washington post" reports the nsa infiltrated links to yahoo! and google, servers globally that the agency is using this practice to get around port approved process. you've been investigating. what have you found? >> the story in effect is that they have gone into the communica
and google and now the nsa is pushing back. plus dr. sanjay gupta was the last journalist to have an exclusive interview with kathleen sebelius. is her message about obama care better today than it was last week when he sat down with her? sanjay standing by to join us live. #%tia[ >>> new developments in the scandal over u.s. government spying. also new allegations the ns after the tapped in to yahoo! and google communications which are used by hundreds of millions of people.nd google...
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finally someone in the administration defense nsa spying. their defense was clear, and aggressive. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time any type of espionage activity against the united states of america our intelligence services our leaders or otherwise? >> absolutely. >> there has not been a mass casualty here in the u.s. since 2001. that's not by luck. they continue to try. it is the great members in the intelligence community, our military, our law enforcement that have stood up and said, this is our job. >> defending themselves with passion and conviction, which up to this point we hadn't seen much of in terms of defense. jim sciutto closely watched the entire hearing today. jim, what were the revelations at the hearing? >> reporter: you got the sense as you say, erin, they were just waiting to go have the chance to push back like this. they pushed back very strong here. first on spying both clapper and alexander saying that our allies spy on us, including on our leaders, that in fact the intelligence services
finally someone in the administration defense nsa spying. their defense was clear, and aggressive. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time any type of espionage activity against the united states of america our intelligence services our leaders or otherwise? >> absolutely. >> there has not been a mass casualty here in the u.s. since 2001. that's not by luck. they continue to try. it is the great members in the intelligence community, our military, our...
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spain reports the nsa listened in on 60 million phone calls in a single month. in germany, the newspaper records, president obama was briefed by nsa chief keith alexander about spying on angela merkel's calls. the nsa quickly denied the report telling cnn general sander did not discuss with president obama in 2010 an alleged foreign intelligence operation involving german chancellor merkel, nor has he ever discussed alleged operations involving murkle. the nsa says the willingness up to now to deny present and future monitoring. >> i can tell you the president can assure the chancellor, the sungs not and will not 3407b tore the conversations of the chancellor. >> reporter: they are coming to the u.s. to challenge their american counterparts, after breaking quote german law on german soil. house chairman rodgers defended the nsa under surveillance on cnn sunday saying it was both well regulated and essential to keeping both americans and europeans safe from terrorism. >> i think the biggest story here, candy, if the united states intelligence services weren't try
spain reports the nsa listened in on 60 million phone calls in a single month. in germany, the newspaper records, president obama was briefed by nsa chief keith alexander about spying on angela merkel's calls. the nsa quickly denied the report telling cnn general sander did not discuss with president obama in 2010 an alleged foreign intelligence operation involving german chancellor merkel, nor has he ever discussed alleged operations involving murkle. the nsa says the willingness up to now to...
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said there's going to be a total review of our nsa policies. and he assured our closest allies that that is going to be the case. he's going to make sure that they are comfortable with what the processes are for the united states moving forward. we're never going to know one way or the other because it's all about national security. >> is that the grey area? i know you've been critical in suggesting that the white house is adopting an incompetence policy instead of we crude up and we'll fix it policy. >> i mean the white house is offering you two choices, either you believe the president didn't know with regard to a big policy that was clearly overreaching and has now got representations with the world in a severely difficult state, or he did know. he's not telling the truth about it. and he oversaw this process getting to this state. and, you know, it's one thing to say, well this started in 20023 under george bush. we're five years into the obama administration. the notion that this is somehow a legacy and outside of his control and he's no l
said there's going to be a total review of our nsa policies. and he assured our closest allies that that is going to be the case. he's going to make sure that they are comfortable with what the processes are for the united states moving forward. we're never going to know one way or the other because it's all about national security. >> is that the grey area? i know you've been critical in suggesting that the white house is adopting an incompetence policy instead of we crude up and we'll...
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surveilance is in some cases the nsa reached too far. those are the exact words used by secretary of state john kerry. lis. >> and in some cases i acknowledge as has the president some of these actions have reached -- we are going to make sure that does not happen in the future. >> congress moving to limit the nsa spying capabilities at least domestically. yesterday the senate intelligence committee approving a bill that focuses on a program which collects metapate data on telephone calls by americans. >> and evan perez is with us from washington. what kind of changes are we talking about specifically? >> well, suzanne, these are very limited changes. they're not, they're still going to be claekting this type of metadata. this is basically you know, information on what numbers you're calling. how long the call took place and that kind of thing. and right now, what the nsa is doing is collecting all of this information on almost every phone call made by u.s. phone customers and it stores this. now, this bill that was approved by the senat
surveilance is in some cases the nsa reached too far. those are the exact words used by secretary of state john kerry. lis. >> and in some cases i acknowledge as has the president some of these actions have reached -- we are going to make sure that does not happen in the future. >> congress moving to limit the nsa spying capabilities at least domestically. yesterday the senate intelligence committee approving a bill that focuses on a program which collects metapate data on telephone...
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late on what the obama administration knew about the nsa surveillance. also ahead, support for legalizing marijuana is at an all-time high so to speak. thank you [ laughter ] >> aisle be here all week. should schools send home letters telling parents their kids are overweight? fat letters a lot of people call them. we'll be talking about all that tonight. we begin with obama care under fire still yet again with the affordable care act already off
late on what the obama administration knew about the nsa surveillance. also ahead, support for legalizing marijuana is at an all-time high so to speak. thank you [ laughter ] >> aisle be here all week. should schools send home letters telling parents their kids are overweight? fat letters a lot of people call them. we'll be talking about all that tonight. we begin with obama care under fire still yet again with the affordable care act already off
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i think it's because of nsa surveillance. i think it's because of syria and the problems related to that. i think when you put all of these things together, people are looking at the president and saying you know, you're not fixing the problems. >> i think one of the problems, too, has been something the republicans have pushed and pushed it subtly for once, and that is the whole idea that he didn't know anything about anything. republicans have put that, you know, you bring up benghazi, what did you know, when did you know it, you bring up did he understand what was going on with the website. well, no, he really didn't know it. so did he know we were spying on our closest friends, well, no, the president didn't know that. i think it gives people this uneasy sense. we're already in uneasy times economically. obama care just superimposes itself over that and people thinking something that we talk about at my kitchen table is changing here, and that's important. it's not some place far away. it's right here. then you add on top
i think it's because of nsa surveillance. i think it's because of syria and the problems related to that. i think when you put all of these things together, people are looking at the president and saying you know, you're not fixing the problems. >> i think one of the problems, too, has been something the republicans have pushed and pushed it subtly for once, and that is the whole idea that he didn't know anything about anything. republicans have put that, you know, you bring up benghazi,...
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. >> james clapper on the nsa leaks. i'm back with bill. before i get to that, bill, give me a plug for the shows you got going, parole of the palms in las vegas november 2nd and 3rd. >> thank you. >> always taking it to the people, piers. >> exactly. >> we will get to vegas? not everyone has cnn. >> let's talk about mr. clapper's views. what do you think on this debate? i feel like if edward snowden lost sean penn, he has to many can be hasn't lost me. >> any concerns? >> i don't know what's in his mind. i don't know what he's doing now. he might be in a hot tub with two russian strippers named i want to drink a lot. he's done some service, getting us to at least debate the issue and as far as stuff gone on the last week or so with the european allies being up sit, i can understand if they felt their personal cell phones were being tapped. but on the other hand, they should really climb a little bit. it's been 60, 70 years since america defended allies, especially in europe. we liberated europe twice in the last century. they never wanted
. >> james clapper on the nsa leaks. i'm back with bill. before i get to that, bill, give me a plug for the shows you got going, parole of the palms in las vegas november 2nd and 3rd. >> thank you. >> always taking it to the people, piers. >> exactly. >> we will get to vegas? not everyone has cnn. >> let's talk about mr. clapper's views. what do you think on this debate? i feel like if edward snowden lost sean penn, he has to many can be hasn't lost me....
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. >>> word today that the nsa tapped the phones of not one, but 35 world leaders. >>> and new revelations, what the white house supposedly did and did not know about it. >>> also this hour, chris brown arrested again. accused of punching a fan and charged with assault. and yes, he is still on probation for roughing up rihanna. >>> and they squeezed through a maintenance patch above the shower, made their way along the jail's plumbing and air conditioning system and broke through a concrete wall and walked out right out of an unlocked door. armed and dangerous, still on the run this hour. >>> hello, everyone. i'm ashleigh banfield. it's monday, october 28th. welcome to "legal view." you do not need to eavesdrop to know that the -- the allies are sounding off this morning. in just a few moments, the british prime minister is due to face parliament. you know how those sessions can get. this morning the u.s. ambassador to spain was called if for dressing down the spanish foreign minister. the spanish newspaper is reporting that the nsa collect locations durations for 60 million phone calls in
. >>> word today that the nsa tapped the phones of not one, but 35 world leaders. >>> and new revelations, what the white house supposedly did and did not know about it. >>> also this hour, chris brown arrested again. accused of punching a fan and charged with assault. and yes, he is still on probation for roughing up rihanna. >>> and they squeezed through a maintenance patch above the shower, made their way along the jail's plumbing and air conditioning...
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have they done an independent audit on what the nsa agency was looking into? no, not so far, and they should. >> so do you think -- what about snowden's leaks, bob, do you think he has been working with foreign governments, or is that allegation, to your view at this point, also not clear? >> well, erin, the promise -- i spent so many years up against the russians. and in that world, when someone goes to moscow, they're presumed guilty. not the other way around. presumed innocent. so you know, i always look at it from a counterintelligence perspective. and i wish he had not gone to moscow, i wish he would have made his protests on the floor of the courthouse, there is no evidence he is a deflector, but i can assure you that the fbi and the cia are looking at that possibility, but again, there is no evidence. >> all right, appreciate your viewpoint, thanks so much to bob and ray. >>> and up next, what would a real iron man suit look like? we'll show you the u.s. military is about to launch that very thing. my customers can shop around-- see who does good work a
have they done an independent audit on what the nsa agency was looking into? no, not so far, and they should. >> so do you think -- what about snowden's leaks, bob, do you think he has been working with foreign governments, or is that allegation, to your view at this point, also not clear? >> well, erin, the promise -- i spent so many years up against the russians. and in that world, when someone goes to moscow, they're presumed guilty. not the other way around. presumed innocent....
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a yahoo spokesman denies the nsa was ever given access to the e data's center and google called the nsa's actions snooping and says the company will continue beefing up encryption security to combat it. >>> iraq's prime minister is in washington this morning looking for help to combat al qaeda. al maliki will meet with president obama at the white house tomorrow and asking for weapons and training and manpower help his country counter a bloody resurgence by a terror organization. five iraqis have been killed by al qaeda attacks since april with 38 suicide bombings in the last month alone. >>> a top secret briefing in washington today on iran. secretary of state john kerry meeting with top senators and expecting to argue with new sanctions on that country. the white house has been encouraged by recent multilateral talks with iran. critics say iran is using the talks as a stalling tactic giving it more time to advance its nuclear program. >>> breaking news now. international officials confirming syria has destroyed all of its declared chemical weapons production and mixing facility. if that
a yahoo spokesman denies the nsa was ever given access to the e data's center and google called the nsa's actions snooping and says the company will continue beefing up encryption security to combat it. >>> iraq's prime minister is in washington this morning looking for help to combat al qaeda. al maliki will meet with president obama at the white house tomorrow and asking for weapons and training and manpower help his country counter a bloody resurgence by a terror organization. five...
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and could be traced back to nsa whistle blower edward snowd snowden. glenn greenwald joins us tonight. want to play something vice president dick cheney said to tapper. tapper asked him about edward snowden. i want to play what he said. >> the problem with snowden is he had acre says to classified information. he's a trader plain and simple. some say he's a whistle blower. he's talked about methods and ways we collect intelligence. >> a number of people said and come around and changed their opinion but clearly vice president cheney doesn't sound like he's going to. how do you respond to what he said? >> i'm really glad dick cheney is available to speak on this because i think he under scores the most important point. dick cheney engaged in some of the worst, most radical conduct in the united states in secret from lying about the war in iraq to torturing people, to putting people in cages with no lawyers a and eavesdropping of people. people in political power like dick cheney want to do what they do behind a wall of sec ra see because they always con
and could be traced back to nsa whistle blower edward snowd snowden. glenn greenwald joins us tonight. want to play something vice president dick cheney said to tapper. tapper asked him about edward snowden. i want to play what he said. >> the problem with snowden is he had acre says to classified information. he's a trader plain and simple. some say he's a whistle blower. he's talked about methods and ways we collect intelligence. >> a number of people said and come around and...
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he did not, however, say specifically whether president obama himself knew about the nsa targeting the phones of 35 leaders including u.s. allies, including the german chancellor. he did say that the u.s. knew about the starting and the type of collection that's been done. >> would it be fair to say that the white house should know what those collection priorities are? >> they can and do, but i have to say that that does not necessarily extend to the detail. and we're talking about a huge enterprise here with thousands and thousands of individual requirements. >> this all starts, though, as you recall, with a report in germany's der spiegel that the nsa monitored the german chancellor's cell phone and could be traced back to the nsa whistle-blower edward snowden. glenn greenwald joins us tonight. want to play something vice president dick cheney said to jay tapper when he interviewed him earlier this week. tapper asked him about edward snowden. i want to play what he said. >> the problem with snowden is he had access to classified information. he violated conditions under which they go
he did not, however, say specifically whether president obama himself knew about the nsa targeting the phones of 35 leaders including u.s. allies, including the german chancellor. he did say that the u.s. knew about the starting and the type of collection that's been done. >> would it be fair to say that the white house should know what those collection priorities are? >> they can and do, but i have to say that that does not necessarily extend to the detail. and we're talking about...
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have they done an independent audit on what the nsa agency was looking into? no, not so far, and they should. >> so do you think -- what about snowden's leaks, bob, do you think he has been working with foreign governments, or is that allegation, to your view at this point, also not clear? >> well, erin, the promise -- i spent so many years up against the russians. and in that world, when someone goes to moscow, they're presumed guilty. not the other way around. presumed innocent. so you know, i always look at it from a counterintelligence perspective. and i wish he had not gone to moscow, i wish he would have made his protests on the floor of the courthouse, there is no evidence he is a deflector, but i can assure you that the fbi and the cia are looking at that possibility, but again, there is no evidence. >> all right, appreciate your viewpoint, thanks so much to bob and ray. >>> and up next, what would a real iron man suit look like? we'll show you the u.s. military is about to launch that very thing. weekdays are for rising to the challenge. they're the d
have they done an independent audit on what the nsa agency was looking into? no, not so far, and they should. >> so do you think -- what about snowden's leaks, bob, do you think he has been working with foreign governments, or is that allegation, to your view at this point, also not clear? >> well, erin, the promise -- i spent so many years up against the russians. and in that world, when someone goes to moscow, they're presumed guilty. not the other way around. presumed innocent....
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we'll start with nsa spying and uproar it caused in europe especially. germany's former defense minister will explain what is going on there. and then the former nsa director will help us understand what america's spies are really doing around the world and michael bloomberg called the mayor of the world. with the election of his successor on hand, what lessons does bloomberg have to share with us? one of th,
we'll start with nsa spying and uproar it caused in europe especially. germany's former defense minister will explain what is going on there. and then the former nsa director will help us understand what america's spies are really doing around the world and michael bloomberg called the mayor of the world. with the election of his successor on hand, what lessons does bloomberg have to share with us? one of th,
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but in fact, the nsa collected no information in europe. they say that any information, i in of this meta data, that's with a it was. not phone call or conten was done by european services, not by the nsa. that it was not in fact the citizens of those countries, france and spain, but collected from a number of sources by the u.s. and nato allies in support of military operations abroad. here's how they made that case at the hearings today. >> the assertions by spain, italy, that nsa collected ten of million of phone call are completely false. to be perfectly clear, this is not information that we collected on european citizens. it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> so in effect, they're saying that one of the strongest reasons for this anger we've been seeing from europe started with nothing. the misinterpretation, erin, of a single power point slide. >> wow, we shall see. that was the tip of the iceberg. thanks so much to you. >> republican
but in fact, the nsa collected no information in europe. they say that any information, i in of this meta data, that's with a it was. not phone call or conten was done by european services, not by the nsa. that it was not in fact the citizens of those countries, france and spain, but collected from a number of sources by the u.s. and nato allies in support of military operations abroad. here's how they made that case at the hearings today. >> the assertions by spain, italy, that nsa...